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Choi Saab

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So Babar stuck with another schmuck management that's calling him selfish

Just goes to show an inept management who fail to realise the fault is with the bowlers + tactics rather than the batting which worked.

Or are you saying Babar was selfish? Twice?
 
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Just goes to show an inept management who fail to realise the fault is with the bowlers + tactics rather than the batting which worked.

Or are you saying Babar was selfish? Twice?

Guy played with a 175+ SR twice and still getting the stick for his batting and that's his ceiling as far as SR is concerned. Notice what happened in both games, QG & MS had a batsman who was just holding that one end while Roy and Russouw were going berserk.

So that's the only criticism on PZ's batting I can draw from these two games. You played Saim at the other end with Babar whose ceiling is also 150-170 SR but could he replicate Roy/Rossouw... I don't think so. Haris or TKC could do that and that's where PZ didn't take advantage of the first 10 overs in both games.

PZ were 110/0 after 10 overs in the first game whereas QG were 137/1.
PZ were 115/0 last night after 10 overs but then MS outdid them by scoring 131/3.

BUT was that Babar's fault? No, he was already outdoing his usual numbers by then but he had a partner who was batting at similar rates at the other end (not even that guy's fault as he batted beautifully too). We can now say that had Babar opted to let Haris/TKC open with him, we could have seen better targets setup by PZ. So PZ made a no. of tactical blunders (e.g. choosing to bat first) which is whole management's fault.

BUT (2x)... if your bowling is failing to defend 240.... and that too having the likes of experienced T20 bowlers like Wahab/Mujeeb there... I'm sorry but you are embarrassingly useless then. We have to overlook and forget everything that happened before that, 240 is a mammoth total and you failed twice.... yes, you should get the stick. I am sure everyone would have talked about only Wahab had he still been the captain this season... but he's getting away from all the slack just because there is a bigger fish to cook now in Babar.

Notice the common factor here. Similar statements have been coming from the same lot of 90's era cricketers. Wasim, Waqar, Aaqib, Moin Khan, Shoaib Akhtar and now Inzi have taken similar negative digs at him of not being a leader or being a selfish batsman or suggested to remove him.
 

Choi Saab

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Guy played with a 175+ SR twice and still getting the stick for his batting and that's his ceiling as far as SR is concerned. Notice what happened in both games, QG & MS had a batsman who was just holding that one end while Roy and Russouw were going berserk.

So that's the only criticism on PZ's batting I can draw from these two games. You played Saim at the other end with Babar whose ceiling is also 150-170 SR but could he replicate Roy/Rossouw... I don't think so. Haris or TKC could do that and that's where PZ didn't take advantage of the first 10 overs in both games.

PZ were 110/0 after 10 overs in the first game whereas QG were 137/1.
PZ were 115/0 last night after 10 overs but then MS outdid them by scoring 131/3.

BUT was that Babar's fault? No, he was already outdoing his usual numbers by then but he had a partner who was batting at similar rates at the other end (not even that guy's fault as he batted beautifully too). We can now say that had Babar opted to let Haris/TKC open with him, we could have seen better targets setup by PZ. So PZ made a no. of tactical blunders (e.g. choosing to bat first) which is whole management's fault.

BUT (2x)... if your bowling is failing to defend 240.... and that too having the likes of experienced T20 bowlers like Wahab/Mujeeb there... I'm sorry but you are embarrassingly useless then. We have to overlook and forget everything that happened before that, 240 is a mammoth total and you failed twice.... yes, you should get the stick. I am sure everyone would have talked about only Wahab had he still been the captain this season... but he's getting away from all the slack just because there is a bigger fish to cook now in Babar.

Notice the common factor here. Similar statements have been coming from the same lot of 90's era cricketers. Wasim, Waqar, Aaqib, Moin Khan, Shoaib Akhtar and now Inzi have taken similar negative digs at him of not being a leader or being a selfish batsman or suggested to remove him.

Yeah can't argue with that.

If you remember I called it in the thread yesterday when PZ chose to bat that they threw the game away.

My issue with when Inzi makes such statements is simply put, him, Babar and Mohammed Akram were there when they selected the team during the drafts and knew what Pindi was like - yet the inability to select a strike bowler of Shaheen, Rauf, Naseem's ability is a direct failure, no matter what argument anyone makes, Wahab is not that guy regardless of his figures, then the same management saw 240 being chased down, didn't make much changes, then went in with the same strategy - albeit this time TKC was captaining.

Feels Babar is easier to scapegoat than the actual management of PZ.
 
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What did you want him to do?
I’m not watching some stupid media clips on this btw

I’m just saying when a team loses. Captain gets the blame.

Just like Imad and Sarfraz are to be blamed for their team’s failures. And if someone comes up with Imad did so well though then that argument holds no value because end result was Karachi lost and they are out.
 

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I’m not watching some stupid media clips on this btw

I’m just saying when a team loses. Captain gets the blame.

Just like Imad and Sarfraz are to be blamed for their team’s failures. And if someone comes up with Imad did so well though then that argument holds no value because end result was Karachi lost and they are out.
Seems like you’re not watching the actual games either

:fawadrana1
 

Choi Saab

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@Choi Saab our record of the only team that never missed the Qualifiers stays intact.

Tbh with the bowling line up we have, it's a miracle :ROFLMAO:.

A lot of potential in the PZ brand going forward, hope Javed Afridi keeps an eye on KPK domestic cricket, I'm 100% we could probably unearth a genuine quick similar to Ihsanullah.
 

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Notice the common factor here. Similar statements have been coming from the same lot of 90's era cricketers. Wasim, Waqar, Aaqib, Moin Khan, Shoaib Akhtar and now Inzi have taken similar negative digs at him of not being a leader or being a selfish batsman or suggested to remove him.
This right here is the key. Those guys cant digest the fact that the current generation of fans don't know who they were and are gravitating towards Babar - calling him King, GOAT, etc. Perhaps the only person more delusional than 90s era cricketer in all of Pakistan is Maryam Nawaz.
 
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Choi Saab

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The fact that we've managed to get 1 match away from the final, speaks volumes of our effort.

We literally have the 2nd weakest attack in the PSL and still despite that we've got this far.

Inshallah LQ's batting isn't the strongest and on this pitch, I'm confident we can get into the final.

Beating MS in the final will be extremely difficult.

But this team deserves praise and Babar proving that he was never the problem.
 

PakistanZ!

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The fact that we've managed to get 1 match away from the final, speaks volumes of our effort.

We literally have the 2nd weakest attack in the PSL and still despite that we've got this far.

Inshallah LQ's batting isn't the strongest and on this pitch, I'm confident we can get into the final.

Beating MS in the final will be extremely difficult.

But this team deserves praise and Babar proving that he was never the problem.
Will be a great match, we’re 1-1 and Babar is in sublime form.
 

ASLI-PATHAN

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The fact that we've managed to get 1 match away from the final, speaks volumes of our effort.

We literally have the 2nd weakest attack in the PSL and still despite that we've got this far.

Inshallah LQ's batting isn't the strongest and on this pitch, I'm confident we can get into the final.

Beating MS in the final will be extremely difficult.

But this team deserves praise and Babar proving that he was never the problem.

Whoever wins tomorrow will win the final. InshaAllah!
 

Inswinger

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The fact that we've managed to get 1 match away from the final, speaks volumes of our effort.

We literally have the 2nd weakest attack in the PSL and still despite that we've got this far.

Inshallah LQ's batting isn't the strongest and on this pitch, I'm confident we can get into the final.

Beating MS in the final will be extremely difficult.

But this team deserves praise and Babar proving that he was never the problem.
Really happy for Zalmi! Teams been doing it right. Relying on young Pakistani batsmen and they have come through for Pak.
 

Choi Saab

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Not the ultimate result we'd have wanted.

But if you reflect on it, with the bowling unit we had, it's clearly inability and not a single strike bowler. PZ actually did really well to end where we did.

To beat IU, LQ and them MS was a tall task and tbf we did do well to get LQ close as well.

But I will say PZ is defo the most exciting team going forward, hopefully Javed Afridi and co drop Wahab and pursue either Naseem Shah, Hasnain or Wasim Jr. Would also make the argument if we can poach Mubasir somehow, he alongside Aamer Jamal would give us 2 solid A/R's and an extremely balanced bowling attack.
 

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Batting is solid but bowling was very poor this season. Should never have lost that 2 games in Pindi. Would have topped the table and sitting in the final now.
 

Kaleem

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Good campaign overall. This team has a very solid core of local talent. Just need to shore up the bowling stocks and you'll have a tittle winning team on your hands. Also need to do a better job with the overseas picks.
 
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Not the ultimate result we'd have wanted.

But if you reflect on it, with the bowling unit we had, it's clearly inability and not a single strike bowler. PZ actually did really well to end where we did.

To beat IU, LQ and them MS was a tall task and tbf we did do well to get LQ close as well.

But I will say PZ is defo the most exciting team going forward, hopefully Javed Afridi and co drop Wahab and pursue either Naseem Shah, Hasnain or Wasim Jr. Would also make the argument if we can poach Mubasir somehow, he alongside Aamer Jamal would give us 2 solid A/R's and an extremely balanced bowling attack.
chup ker bandwagoner.
 

Choi Saab

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With Naseem leaving Quetta and it seems Wahab withdrawing from the PSL - does that mean Naseem is coming to PZ?

Happy Jonah Hill GIF
 

Prince Pathan

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Means Naseem will be going to Peshawar
Hopefully not.
Javed Afridi and Mohammad Akram don't deserve him.

They don't actually select these guys when they have a chance. Only picks them when they have developed their own brand.

Keep him as far away from Muhammad Akram as possible
 

Choi Saab

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Hopefully not.
Javed Afridi and Mohammad Akram don't deserve him.

They don't actually select these guys when they have a chance. Only picks them when they have developed their own brand.

Keep him as far away from Muhammad Akram as possible

Naseem will be safe at PZ.

He'll have Babar and co looking after him.

Akram won't make a difference, he's useless anyway.

Just imagine, Naseem, Arshad and Aamer Jamal - ufff 🔥.
 

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Naseem or husnain or waseem jr are coming to PZ and need another spinner like abrar
 

Munna

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Naseem will be safe at PZ.

He'll have Babar and co looking after him.

Akram won't make a difference, he's useless anyway.

Just imagine, Naseem, Arshad and Aamer Jamal - ufff 🔥.

As if we saw Wasim Akrams and Mohammad Shamis in the recent wc campaign who got developed under Babar and these jobber franchises

:fawadrana1
 

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